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MEMBERS: If you do not know until now, reading this, I'm sure you will hear almost no eagle news as the day passes except for this:
Early this morning, eaglet E25 (offspring of M15 and F23, Pritchett nest, N. Fort Myers, FL), exhibited the same symptoms as did its sibling, E24, that passed 24 hours previous, and in the end, its symptoms caused a fall from the nest. My opinion, and just my personal opinion, is that the eaglet can be presumed to be deceased.
As CROW was quick to respond yesterday and is local, we can be assured that a representative will be out first thing in the morning, if boots on the ground and the general public who are separated from the nest only by a little walking distance and a fence, don't make it to the tree first. I'm sure we will know very soon after daybreak if E25 survived the fall but even if it did, it will NOT survive whatever is afflicting it. Do NOT get your hopes raised falsely.
Rather, now we need to turn our thoughts and attentions to M15 and F23.
Quite obviously now, any chance folks might have hoped for that E24's death was caused by somehow choking on a pellet it was trying to cast or perhaps a bone scrap or something is moot. There is no way that E24 died as a result of any sort of choking incident.
As far as causation as to the deaths of both eaglets, we now go to the other quite obvious potentials which are LIKELY to be rodenticide poisoning or avian flu. Whatever the cause, it's obvious that both eaglets came into fatal contact with the source at about the same time. This would go hand-in-hand with either second-generation rodenticide poisoning (because they would have eaten from the same poisoned protein source brought to the nest by the parents), or with avian flu (POSSILY contracted from a bird brought to the nest as food by the parents). Folks on multiple groups have noted how many ducks have been brought in and we have all heard that right now there's a horrid wave of the avian flu that is sweeping across the country and severely affecting birds of all species across our nation. AND, about two weeks ago one of the parents brought in a big fat rat and fed both eaglets and the comments were fast and furious about that while cam-watchers watched the feeding.
This is all just my opinion, and the only reason I really have in being able to put it out there is that I'm an admin and can post what I want. But I'll tell you, I'm a realist; I do not tend to go around with rose-colored glasses on. I've had lots and lots of parrots, lots and lots of animals of varying species, and I've been through some of the worst-case scenarios with all of them with illness and injury and a long time ago I stopped trying to make things look like I wanted them to look and, instead, I look at things as they ARE and evaluate what I see with a logical mind that has had experience of some sort.
I felt yesterday that E25 was not acting "right" but anyone in any groups who was daring to comment that sort of thing was getting immediately shot down; no one wanted to hear that, no one wanted to listen to it. The idea that we might lose both eaglets was too incredibly horrendous to fathom so the idea was summarily rejected.
So I'm telling y'all now - - it's time to stop focusing on E24 and E25. They are gone. They were killed by a substance or a virus that affected them both, that they were both exposed to at the same time, and that no matter how you want to paint the picture, LIKELY that source was brought into the nest by either M15 or F23 and LIKELY both parent birds have been exposed to the same thing, either through also ingesting the protein containing the chemical substance or by transmission of virus through handling the deceased prey bird, transporting it tot he nest, feeding it to the eaglets and quite possibly consuming some themselves. NOW is the time to worry about M15 and F23.
There was lots and lots and lots of chatter on the eagle group Facebook pages about how M15 and F23 were staying away from the nest and hanging out in the nest tree all day and stuff because they were mourning the loss of E24. YES, animals have feelings. Those of us who have owned an animal know that's true. But are they HUMAN feelings, intelligent feelings that are based on logic and reason? NO, and they cannot possibly be. M15's and F23's behavior yesterday, of both hanging out in the tree the entire day, neither leaving until late when both left together, was not entirely normal and I doubt it was caused by grief such as a human being feels. Both also are in the tree as I type this, even with the distress that E25 went through. If we watch their behavior taking into account that they are birds, not humans, and observe them and come to conclusions regarding their state of health based on that, we are better off than ascribing it to grief or mourning such as a human feels, thoughts that a human being has.
Any prayers you care to offer now need to be focused on M15 and F23. We are now on alert, on watch. The time now is to observe for behavior changes that might indicate a problem ...
Not that there's a darned thing we can do about it. As has been stated so many times that as my poor old mom used to say, "we've run it into the ground and broken it off" in comments about how someone should capture the adults (flighted birds are not hunted down and captured), all sorts of thoughts like that. It's NOT going to happen. Until and unless one is GROUNDED and rendered unable to fly away, they will not in any way be caught, no matter how many calls you make, no matter how much ranting and raving we do, no matter how we beg and plead. We are mere observers watching raw nature play out thanks to the wonders of 24/7 weather-protected live nature cams.
So here's what we're going to do and how we're going to proceed:
We are not going to bash CROW for not taking E25 with them from the nest while they were up there. Here's the truth: At the time they were up there, there was no PROOF per LEGAL standards (I'm supposing) that E25 should be taken because there was no PROOF of what caused E24's death and that it was going to also take E25. We weren't there, we cannot know the discussions that went on with the authorities. We are NOT in a position to pass unfair judgment on CROW or the Pritchetts or anyone else in control of this nest and its occupants. There were/are plenty of folks in the eagle FB groups who believe CROW was wrong for going up there to retrieve E24's remains in the first place, so let's not bash them for not also taking E25.
2. We are not going to raise drama about M15 and F23. Rather, we, as intelligent, observing folk, are going to do just that: OBSERVE. We are not going to freak out and start conjecturing and speculating. The time for that was with E25 and now that time is over. The eaglets are gone; we grieve them from the depths of our wounded hearts. But we must now turn our focus to the parents who remain and who have a sword hanging over their heads.
3. We are NOT going to post every single time one of those eagles ruffles a feather with stuff like, "OMG, this" and "OMG, that." For the mental sake of everyone who is a member here, let's limit the drama and keep things to FACTS, not post things merely out of shock and angst.
4. We are NOT going to rant and rave about how "why doesn't someone catch them" and comments along that line. It isn't going to happen and it serves to do nothing except stir the pot.
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I just said about not raising drama and speculation, but I have to add this just out of pure realism. How many of you were watching when female bald eagle Andrian of the Kistatchie Forest cam contracted whatever it was that killed her, whether it be lead from ingesting deceased animals from hunting in the forest or whether it be avian flu? People who think logically about these things next turned their attention Anna, the other breeding bald eagle female in the forest. And it ended up that, oh, about two, two and a half weeks later, Anna displayed the same symptoms and died in the same manner as Adrian. We need to watch and pray for M15 and F23. If they survive whatever it is that killed their eaglets this year, then there will be more eaglets to come. I love the babies and will miss the babies and their loss is an undoubted tragedy, but my prayer is always that the bonded adult breeding pair survives - - not to mention the years worth of emotional attachment that everyone has to M15.
So as events start to unfold today, try to keep hyper-drama to a mellow sort of roar and turn your eyes to M15 and F23 and pray for their health and safety.