Melnie stārķi-2 Igaunijā, 2022 (Jans un Janika)

Ciconia nigra - Black Stork
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Sassa wrote: 30 Jun 2022 13:08 Ārkārtīgi žēl, ka tā 💔 Cerams, ka abiem pārējiem izdosies izaugt un izlidot, bet, protams, ka jāņem vērā, ka šis ir neparedzams eksperiments. Paldies Urmasam un visiem, kas dara visu iespējamo, lai šie stārķēni izaugtu! 🙏 Un paldies, Amanda777, ka turpini mūs cītīgi informēt par viņu gaitām!🤗
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Hello all together :-) Sveiki :-)

Trail camera video clip from Eedi's nest of the male bird equipped with transmitter where JJ chick was brought from the clinic as a foster child Bonus 2. In two weeks, the three nestlings have adapted to their foster sibling.

VIDEO by Kotkaklubi (14 Jul 2022)


Eedi feeding his four stork chicks

In the feeding trough near the Eedi's nest, we see a fish tank so that the male bird can raise the stork chicks to be able to fly.

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Male bird Eedi in fish tank, which is installed only one and a half kilometres from the nest

source: https://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/6865
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Solo LK wrote: 15 Jul 2022 18:16 Hello all together :-) Sveiki :-)

Track camera video clip from Eedi's nest ...
SoloLK, thank you very much! It is so good to know about Bonus2 growing in Eedi's nest! :P
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Solo LK, thank You :P

Liels prieks par abiem Bonusiem :D Tas ir labākais, ka viņi aug īstās ligzdās, starp īstiem stārķiem 💕
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July 26

:( :( :(

Post by Urmas » July 26th, 2022, 4:08 pm
Next message is not that fun...
As there was difficult to control trail cam near Eedis nest we checked situation on place. All four chicks are predated there! Now, looking from memory card of camera, we could say that first chick was predated in evening 16th of July, two chicks in 21st of July and last one in 22nd of July.
Because of certain delay of taking of photo or video by trail camera, no any signs of visible predator. Seems it happened always so quickly, that camera was not able to fix the action. Only with two last cases we could hear some seldom wing flapping under the nest. No voice of chicks on ground nor voice of predator.
Half eaten (by bird of prey) bodies of chicks were 30-60m from nest. According the time of predation (full day) and speed of attack, dense trees around and behaviour pattern of predation it was Goshawk, most probably.
So, one orphan chick is left, in Karula nest.
Our volunteers family brought more fish to Eedi, as there female stork did not show last two weeks and chicks were smaller. But we stopped feeding of Eedi, to pay more attention to Karls nest. Eedi should manage by himself.


(source: https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 47#p871647)

to this nest was adopted Bonus2 ... so now only one chicks is alive - finger crossed very, very much for Bonus in Karula nest
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Solo LK wrote: 26 Jul 2022 23:24 July 26

:( :( :(

Post by Urmas » July 26th, 2022, 4:08 pm
Next message is not that fun...
As there was difficult to control trail cam near Eedis nest we checked situation on place. All four chicks are predated there! Now, looking from memory card of camera, we could say that first chick was predated in evening 16th of July, two chicks in 21st of July and last one in 22nd of July.
Because of certain delay of taking of photo or video by trail camera, no any signs of visible predator. Seems it happened always so quickly, that camera was not able to fix the action. Only with two last cases we could hear some seldom wing flapping under the nest. No voice of chicks on ground nor voice of predator.
Half eaten (by bird of prey) bodies of chicks were 30-60m from nest. According the time of predation (full day) and speed of attack, dense trees around and behaviour pattern of predation it was Goshawk, most probably.
So, one orphan chick is left, in Karula nest.
Our volunteers family brought more fish to Eedi, as there female stork did not show last two weeks and chicks were smaller. But we stopped feeding of Eedi, to pay more attention to Karls nest. Eedi should manage by himself.


(source: https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 47#p871647)
:cry: :cry: My heart is broken..💔💔
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💔💔💔💔
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Šeit šodien ieliku piemiņas bildīti un video, kur Eedi baro visus 4...
:cry:
Sapratu, ka 2 nedēļas arī Eedi sieva nebija redzēta, tikai Eedi baroja mazuļus.
https://www.youtube.com/c/Amanda777Gucci/community
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Cik tas viss ir skarbi un skumji :(
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04.09.
Liels paldies Liz01 par šīs ligzdas traģisko notikumu atainošanu video! Image

:!: Uzmanību!
Var būt smagi skatīties, kā Janika apēd savu 6.-to (28.05.2022.) un atbrīvojas no 5.-tā 03.06.2022.) cāļa.
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https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 35#p877335
Bonus
I daļa ~Jan & Janika! Cāļu glābšana💕~Aprīlis-2022. gada 6. jūnijs

Ligzdas dzīve līdz cāļu izglābšanai 30 minūtēs.
Dr. Madis Leivits, Igaunijas Veterinārārstu asociācijas prezidents
Igaunija un Kotkaklubi biedrs Urmass Sellis ļoti rūpīgi pārdomājuši, ko darīt, lai glābtu atlikušos cāļus. Tas nekad agrāk nebija darīts, tāpēc nebija skaidrs, kā tas beigsies.
Bez Jana Janika nevarēja izaudzināt cāļus. Viņai tas nebija iespējams, un visi novērotāji to zināja. Urmass nolēma iejaukties un mēģināt glābt cāļus. Vispirms viņš tos baroja pie ligzdas, izmantojot mānekļu stārķi. Bet tas nebija ilgtermiņa risinājums. Viņi nolēma dabūt cāļus no ligzdas.


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II daļa ~Atlikušo cāļu hopitalizācija~5. jūnijs -27. jūnijs

Cālēni klīnikā attīstījās ļoti labi. Saskarsme ar cilvēkiem aprobežojās ar dažiem izņēmumiem, tāpēc viņi nevarēja pierast pie cilvēkiem. Tas bija svarīgi viņu turpmākai dzīvei savvaļā, ja projekts būs veiksmīgs. Neviens nezināja, kas notiks, jo tas nekad agrāk nebija darīts.
Dr Madis Leivits viņiem uzbūvēja ligzdu, kas atbilst dabiskajai ligzdai mežā.
Tika izgatavota plastmasas caurule ar plastmasas galvu melnā stārķa formā. Dr Leivits viņu sauca par Toru (angļu valodā Pipe-truba).Pie ligzdas malas tika pieskrūvēts mānekļa stārķis, lai cāļiem vienmēr būtu vizuāls kontakts ar "mammu". Viņi sazinājās ar šo stārķi tā, it kā tā patiešām būtu viņu mamma. Viņi iemācījās dažas lietas, piemēram, izņemt zivis no "tēta" knābja.
BTW: Viņi saņēma gredzenus, lai tos varētu atšķirt. Visi izšķīlušies vienā un tajā pašā dienā!
27. jūnijā klīnikas kamera izslēdzās.


III daļa (Karulas ligzda) tiks veikta vēlāk.. rīt vai parīt. Man vajag pārtraukumu.
Liz01 wrote: 04 Sep 2022 17:04 Bonus
Part I ~Jan & Janika! Rescue of the chicks💕~April- June 6th 2022

The nestlife until the rescue the chicks summarized in 30 minutes.
Dr. Madis Leivits, President at Estonian Veterinary Association
Estonia and Urmas Sellis, Member of Kotkaklubi, have thought very carefully about what to do to save the remaining chicks. This had never been done before, so it was uncertain how it would end.
Without Jan, Janika could not raise the chicks. It was impossible for her, and all observers knew it. Urmas decided to intervene and try to save the chicks. As first he was feeding them at the nest using a decoy stork. But that wasn't a long-term solution. They decided to get the chicks from the nest.
[youtube]BVoKyU4uAto[/youtube]

Bonus
Part II~Hopitalization of the remaining chicks~5. June -27. June

The chicks developed very well in the clinic. Contact with humans was limited to a few exceptions, so they could not get used to humans. This was important for their continued life in the wilderness if the project is successful. No one knew what was going to happen because it had never been done before.
Dr Madis Leivits built them a nest that matched the natural nest in the forest.
A plastic tube with an artificial plastic head in the shape of a black stork was made. Dr Leivits called him Toru (in english Pipe)
A decoy stork was screwed to the edge of the nest so the chicks always had visual contact with the "Mom". They interacted with this stork as if it were actually their Mom. They learned a few things, like taking fish out of "Dad's" beak.
BTW: They got rings to distinguish them. The all hatched on the same day!
on June 27 the clinic camera went off
[youtube]7sWeYQuchEU[/youtube]

Part III (Karula Nest) will be done later .. tomorrow or after tomorrow.. I need a break
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Sveiki visiem :D

Urmas Sellis, Dr. Madis, Bonus and so on

thumbnail shows Bonus :innocent: Dr. Madis is on the right
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Dr Madis - nest building . the nest is really not high. #3 fell from this height
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our cute storklets :loveshower:
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Dr. Madis attaches the transmitter to Bonus's back
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the video :D
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Liz01 wrote: 21 Sep 2022 15:45 the video :D

Liz01, thanks so much :P
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Sveicināti!
Par "tēvoci Eedi", kā reiz viņu nosauca Urmas Sellis.
Gan marikas/Solo forumā, gan LK forumā ir citāti no vēstulēm, ko Urmas Sellis rakstījis par Eedi meklēšanu pēdējā zināmajā vietā Latvijā, pēc raidītāja datiem.
Iepriecinoši: nekas nav liecinājis, ka putns varētu būt gājis bojā. Nekur nevienas spalvas. Redzēti tikai izkārnījumi ("the poop stains") zem koka, kur putns nakšņojis.
Ornitologs ar vēl 2 palīgiem ir pētījis attiecīgo apkārtni septembra vidū, laikam 18.septembrī.
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jersikiete wrote: 23 Oct 2022 00:05 Ornitologs ar vēl 2 palīgiem ir pētījis attiecīgo apkārtni septembra vidū, laikam 18.septembrī.
Paldies par ziņu :P
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2023.Gads
17.Aprīlis
10.57 Ieradies stārķis. Pēc svilpieniem -puika
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